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you have seen papa john's take a hit. if they continue down this path, there's going to be organized boycotts to hurt business and bottom line as well. the question is about a $5 to $8 million cost for a company with operating expenses of $1.3 billion. so it's minuscule. he's trying to make a political point. for instance, there's minimum wage requirements. and this is what the obama care is about. if you have 50 employees, you're required to pay for their health care coverage or pay a penalty. papa john's can pay the penalty. but he's making a political point. because he doesn't have to make this decision for another year. the law takes place in 2014. if he's trying to do it right after the election as a try of making a point. >> president obama is meeting with business leaders on wednesday. do you think this is going to come up? this pushback against obama care? >> sure. we got a hint of how this is playing out when john boehner told abc that it's now the law of the land. for some reason, republicans are still invested
you have seen papa john's take a hit. if they continue down this path, there's going to be organized boycotts to hurt business and bottom line as well. the question is about a $5 to $8 million cost for a company with operating expenses of $1.3 billion. so it's minuscule. he's trying to make a political point. for instance, there's minimum wage requirements. and this is what the obama care is about. if you have 50 employees, you're required to pay for their health care coverage or pay a penalty....
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the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour
the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula...
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now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment started the initial investigation. a senior defense official traveling with panetta says 20,000 to 30,000 pages of epail and other documents from general allen's communications with kelley are under review. the official says general allen disputes engaging in any wrong doing in the matter. the fbi referred the matter to the department of defense for investigation on sunday. early this morning secretary panetta directed that the defense department's inspector general investigate. last night fbi agents went to
now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill...
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will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title of her book was "all in." she might as well -- >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we begin with the broadening and complicated scope of the petraeus investigation that has now ensnared his successor, commander of all forces in afghanistan, general john allen. joining me with their latest reporti
will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the...
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top informed leaders, david petraeus and john allen. why one woman in tampa is connected to top of the u.s. military brass. >>> congressman chris van holden will join me on the fiscal cliff. >>> and ally sheedy is going to be here, how she's lending her voice to a group left homeless after hurricane sandy. that and more coming up at the top of the hour. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. no one says that anymore, mom. [ woman ] raise the roof! ah? raise the roof! [ male announcer ] it's our biggest toy rollback of the year. find hundreds of rollbacks on the season's hottest toys in stores now, from america's gift headquarters, walmart. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insu
top informed leaders, david petraeus and john allen. why one woman in tampa is connected to top of the u.s. military brass. >>> congressman chris van holden will join me on the fiscal cliff. >>> and ally sheedy is going to be here, how she's lending her voice to a group left homeless after hurricane sandy. that and more coming up at the top of the hour. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our...
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joining me now is jonathan allen. >> the other john allen. >> the other john allen. all we're missing now is for someone to wake up from a coma in a hospital and reveal they were the rightful commander of the troops. i mean the thing, this has spiraled and seemingly almost out of control. the reality, of course, is that there are 68,000 troops in afghanistan, we have military conflict in the middle east, what does this say and do to the leadership on the defense side? >> look, unless you believe that these are the only men that could carry out these jobs well, then the defense infrastructure and the national security infrastructure of the united states should be relatively unaffected by this. there should be people that can come into those jobs and do those jobs well. if you believe these are the only men that can do those jobs to protect our country in the case of david petraeus, having him resign from the cia would have been a terrible thing and the president should have stopped him from doing it. in the case of general allen, stopping his promotion would be a terr
joining me now is jonathan allen. >> the other john allen. >> the other john allen. all we're missing now is for someone to wake up from a coma in a hospital and reveal they were the rightful commander of the troops. i mean the thing, this has spiraled and seemingly almost out of control. the reality, of course, is that there are 68,000 troops in afghanistan, we have military conflict in the middle east, what does this say and do to the leadership on the defense side? >> look,...
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. >> that confirmation process has been put on hold for general john allen. they're speeding up the confirmation process for his replacement in afghanistan. we're awaiting of course for the white house to respond on camera. i can tell you that the briefing will likely focus on exclusively on this issue the fallout from general petraeus and now general john allen. white house released this statement in the early hours of this morning, we havegraphic of it. it says, quote at the question of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold his nomination of general allen as saceur pending the investigation of john allen. that's coming from tommy vietor. this is coming the days after president obama won re-election. certainly not how the administration envisioned the first few days of the new term. they are certainly stunned by some of these developments and trying to stay focused on the fiscal cliff, that's something that's pending and potentially could impact all americans, however, this is something they'll have to deal with, president obama is set to h
. >> that confirmation process has been put on hold for general john allen. they're speeding up the confirmation process for his replacement in afghanistan. we're awaiting of course for the white house to respond on camera. i can tell you that the briefing will likely focus on exclusively on this issue the fallout from general petraeus and now general john allen. white house released this statement in the early hours of this morning, we havegraphic of it. it says, quote at the question of...
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but john kerry would be first in line to succeed him. what i find interesting is if it's true, it means the white house is not buying into the idea you can't pick john kerry because it opens up the senate seat and scott brown wins the senate seat. >> do you like kerry at defense as an idea? >> he's as qualified as anybody if he wants that. i just feel like if you want him for that job and you think he's a good match, don't be scared off by this guy. >> 100% agree. >> if he's the right guy for the job, that's where he belongs. >> i tried to throw steve a life raft so you didn't have to talk about petraeus and you threw me right off. that was the ridiculous segue. any way, next up, we continue our series taking a look at the most pressing issues facing the country. this last conversation not being one of them. today the issue was one that affects every american's wallet. we're talking taxes. >>> they are encouraging customers to shop local. they created lady's night in burbank, california, to boost sales by staying open late. make sure to
but john kerry would be first in line to succeed him. what i find interesting is if it's true, it means the white house is not buying into the idea you can't pick john kerry because it opens up the senate seat and scott brown wins the senate seat. >> do you like kerry at defense as an idea? >> he's as qualified as anybody if he wants that. i just feel like if you want him for that job and you think he's a good match, don't be scared off by this guy. >> 100% agree. >> if...
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you had john mccain four years ago, john kerry eight years ago. so it is different because during the weeks after he was put on the romney ticket, there was a lot offed a you'll lation for paul ryan here. it is different now. and he comes back and we expect he'll get his same position as the head of the house budget committee. that requires a special waiver because he's had that job for the maximum amount of time. he's still well-regarded by his republican colleagues and i think you get a sense that he's been through a challenging election period. we'll have to see how much of a public posture he wants to have going forward, and so ryan is back, but we don't yet have a measure of how influential he will be. >> what sway then, kelly, do you think he has in the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> everything we're getting a sense of is that this will be a negotiation that at least on front stage will be between speaker boehner and president obama. and so boehner is certainly influenced by ryan's knowledge of the budget, but i don't think that this is going
you had john mccain four years ago, john kerry eight years ago. so it is different because during the weeks after he was put on the romney ticket, there was a lot offed a you'll lation for paul ryan here. it is different now. and he comes back and we expect he'll get his same position as the head of the house budget committee. that requires a special waiver because he's had that job for the maximum amount of time. he's still well-regarded by his republican colleagues and i think you get a sense...
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general john allen is in washington today. he was preparing for his own confirmation hearing to be the supreme allied commander in europe. that's on hold. the hearing for joseph dunford to be allen's successor as commander in afghanistan will go ahead. look, we have all the angles covered here. nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, investigative correspondent michaeli isikoff. pete williams seemed to indicate the fbi was closing its investigation of broadwell. so why have to go to her house? >> reporter: well, the fbi confirms, chuck, it did conduct a search of broadwell's house. agents were seen carrying out about half a dozen boxes of plastic containers. "the charlotte observer" newspaper is reporting two xauters and a printer were among those taken. senior law enforcement tells pete williams, our justice correspondent, this wasn't necessa necessarily a raid but rather a consensual search. that official says this wasn't necessarily a game changer either but rather an extra step to ensure thoroughness. now the inv
general john allen is in washington today. he was preparing for his own confirmation hearing to be the supreme allied commander in europe. that's on hold. the hearing for joseph dunford to be allen's successor as commander in afghanistan will go ahead. look, we have all the angles covered here. nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, investigative correspondent michaeli isikoff. pete williams seemed to indicate the fbi was closing its investigation of broadwell. so why have to go to...
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paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' former mistress. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift?
paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' former mistress. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift?
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national l
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> now, let me ask, general allen is now under investigation for his relationship with jill kelley. what can you tell us about the relationship and what can you tell us about miss kelley. >> we should say we don't know for sure. as you pointed out, the e-mails, these voluminous -- apparently voluminous
general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. now,ere's one that will ke you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybri
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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john kerry has long, i think, wanted to be secretary of state. and that's not a secret in washington. and he is many people believe superbly qualified. by my reporting, some prefer to have susan rice. but according to democrats, she's been badly damaged by the benghazi situation and needs to go through the process. they are not sure she could be confirmed. so the floating of john kerry for defense would perhaps clear the way or ease the way for susan rice to get confirmed for state. but it's not clear that it will work. >> andrea mitchell, i could talk to you all night tonight. there's so much going on. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> her show is at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. i'm telling you, must-see tv. >>> turns out the election isn't over. stay tuned for that. including the music and everything. that's coming up next. mr. margi? mr. margi? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the las
john kerry has long, i think, wanted to be secretary of state. and that's not a secret in washington. and he is many people believe superbly qualified. by my reporting, some prefer to have susan rice. but according to democrats, she's been badly damaged by the benghazi situation and needs to go through the process. they are not sure she could be confirmed. so the floating of john kerry for defense would perhaps clear the way or ease the way for susan rice to get confirmed for state. but it's...
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it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley. one senior u.s. defense official ta tells "washington post." there was an unidentified account that was traced to none other than paula broadwell. well, there you have it. you're investigating this. i tried to explain this and i'm trying not to be light-hearted but there's such an aspect to this story above or rather well below the importance of the positions these men hold. one of them being, of course, our commander in afghanistan. the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and woond be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the rorner what i'm mi
it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley. one senior u.s. defense official ta tells "washington post." there was an unidentified account that was...
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i think john's right, i think the original sin was the biggest. starting an investigation based on perhaps, perhaps, perhaps a romantic contest for david petraeus' -- >> there's nothing else that started that investigation except for e-mails that said i saw what you were doing? >> half dozen e-mails. >> that's frightening. >> that's a big sin. but the other sin is at the end when they find out there is no criminal conduct here and then they decide to move it beyond the walls of the fbi. >> who is the -- again, to be as precise as possible, who is the supervisor of the shirtless fbi agent -- the shirtless fbi agent presumably has to come back to someone and say i'm now about to -- well, we don't know his name. he has to come back and say i propose opening up a cyber crimes investigation on the basis of what? who is the person that looks at that evidence and says, yes, you are now authorized to access this -- >> because of six e-mails. >> because of these e-mails. >> we don't know the total scope of the e-mails, but on the basis, it would seem to me
i think john's right, i think the original sin was the biggest. starting an investigation based on perhaps, perhaps, perhaps a romantic contest for david petraeus' -- >> there's nothing else that started that investigation except for e-mails that said i saw what you were doing? >> half dozen e-mails. >> that's frightening. >> that's a big sin. but the other sin is at the end when they find out there is no criminal conduct here and then they decide to move it beyond the...
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and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that somehow the country would categorically reject the president because we had, that the country would somehow say to itself, you know, we can't live with this new land of big government health care, big government spending, et cetera, because we can't. and that's fine. the problem was in articulating to the american people why we can't live with those things, why those things are bad, and instead, as you have noted many times on this program, we got waylaid by conversations about women's bodies and abortion and th
and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a...